Oh, this conversation hit home in my head, in my heart, and in my body. Too much good stuff to absorb/try to understand in one viewing so I'll be back - often. I can feel a change happening in me already and it feels like good, valid work to be done. Thank you. This episode and the one with Loch Kelly have opened my eyes and have nourished me deeply.
First time listener to the mind bod pod. I subscribed after almost 2 years of regular listening to Jeff's daily trip meditations on calm. Something in me felt compelled to express gratitude to Jeff for packaging meditation into something so accessible and to share how important it had been for me, navigating anxiety, burnout, parenting 3 little kids, needing to stop work and realising I had adhd over the past 2 years. Daily trip has been a touch stone for me through it all and I'm so glad you exist and were able to create something which has helped me (and my family) so much. Thank you❤️
The skills discussed in today's podcast were a new framework for me and really interesting to listen to.
I absolutely loved the idea hierarchies can exist without being hierarchies of worth and definitely want to hold that with me as I gently step back into my career.
I also really appreciated the discussion around congruence not needing to be a value.
For me, I have recently been holding authenticity as a value. I suppose this has come about in response to burnout from not acknowledging my own needs and experience. I am grateful for James Olivia's discussion about moving into spaces where it may not feel safe or desirable to be in congruence due to different power imbalances and modelling a third option of choosing mindfully whether to apply congruence or not.
I think have found my way to something similar to unconditional positive regard under the name of compassion following my own undertaking of a mindful self compassion course and working to develop my own understanding of possible feelings and needs and experiences that are underlying the behaviour of others through the teachings of NVC (non violent communication). I have found it exceptionally freeing and peaceful to be able to see us all as imperfect humans. Disagreeing with a person's actions, not liking them, being hurt by them, does not preclude being able to hold compassion for their experience and their own struggles that impact the way they show up in the world.
Empathic listening is just gold- reflecting back to another human what you understood and allowing you to be on the same page. SO POWERFUL.
I also appreciated the heirachies delineation Penny. I wish you luck with gently stepping back into your career <3 Contemplating these new views sounds so helpful for that- and life in general!
Thank you for this; there's a lot of yumminess to chew on here! I think my biggest takeaway is to hold not only the other person in high regard (I already forgot the term 🤦♀️) but also myself. Since my latest health scare, I've been shown how vital this skill is.
After years of not being listened to at my old hospital, I saw my new cardiologist from a different hospital today, and everything went great! I'm kind of exhausted, so I'll give you the highlights (this took about five hours to write, so I hope it makes sense 🥴). Dr. Campbell from the Minneapolis Heart Institute explained absolutely everything, was very friendly, and even kept saying I'm a highly intelligent woman (me, not him 😉). Dr. Campbell also said the arterial dissection should heal and explained why they don't stent spontaneous coronary artery dissection SCAD patients (totally different from what they told me at the Mayo). He also took me off a daily medication they put me on at the Mayo that's actually dangerous for patients with arterial dissections. They also had me on an IV medication in the hospital that is contraindicated with SCAD, which probably caused the last three heart attacks I had on Friday (on top of my heart attack on Wednesday, March 5, and Thursday, March 6, brought on by my fibromuscular dysplasia [FMD] causing the SCAD) and may have made my arterial dissection worse (I finally had to yell at them--not proud of that--to get them to quit giving it to me because it was causing me to vomit a few times an hour as I was literally fighting to stay alive). Anyway, enough of that; it's over and done now (I'm sorry, I had to vent, and I understand if you ignore it). ☺️ I'm having scans on April 3 at 11:00, and Dr. Campbell wants me to remain on bed rest with no news or anything stressful until we talk about the results; then, we'll go from there once we know the extent of the damage (which might already be healing! 🤞). He also prescribed nitroglycerin for the (somewhat high levels of) heart pain and spasms I've been having and explained how to use it and when to go to the ER. There's a 20% chance it could happen again, but they're getting me in with the best vascular surgeon, Dr. Skeik, and he'll check everything and make specific, personalized plans for my FMD going forward. I'm so grateful and happy (in a totally calm, non-stress way 🤭)!!! 🥰❤️🩹🥳
You have been through so much... <3 Thank goodness for Dr. Campbell- I'm so sorry that a good bit of that seemed to have been unnecessary, especially with how debilitating it was :( high stakes! I'm glad you're in a good place mentally, you certainly have fortitude!! I'm also glad you have someone with care and integrity taking over your treatment plan. Sending thoughts of strength and healing your way <3 <3
That was all so amazingly good. I learned so much about myself through you guys. Jeff when you shared at about 11 minutes in and Tasha around 25 minutes I was thinking oh my gosh that's me. So, even at 67 you can learn new stuff about yourself and cool new ways to think. Loved her, loved you guys. Thank a bunch for sharing with us.
Thank you so much for being real human beings. It is so lovely and refreshing. You make me feel like I can be human too, with all my issues and still keep trying to progress. This is just what I needed. I have been such a shape shifter in my life and now trying to find what shape I am is a fun learning process. Keep up the creative swearing !
It seems like this was recorded last fall... Did you deliberately choose to drop this episode now, when we are seeing unprecedented levels of fuckery in the world? I can't even articulate how many ways this hit home this week. I'm going to be thinking about unconditional positive regard a lot. It feels like maybe this is The Key Skill -- it reminds me of a meditation prompt Tasha gave us a couple of months ago: "we're all made of the same stuff". I've shared that one with a few people recently and we are all similarly stopped in our tracks by that image.
James-Olivia is so tuned in and present and full of wisdom- I was blown away. Her capacity to grasp at all the unseen unheard components of communication and then articulate her approach - so masterful! And generous, and rooted in integrity. I want to know more, much more!
James-Olivia is the best!
Oh, this conversation hit home in my head, in my heart, and in my body. Too much good stuff to absorb/try to understand in one viewing so I'll be back - often. I can feel a change happening in me already and it feels like good, valid work to be done. Thank you. This episode and the one with Loch Kelly have opened my eyes and have nourished me deeply.
First time listener to the mind bod pod. I subscribed after almost 2 years of regular listening to Jeff's daily trip meditations on calm. Something in me felt compelled to express gratitude to Jeff for packaging meditation into something so accessible and to share how important it had been for me, navigating anxiety, burnout, parenting 3 little kids, needing to stop work and realising I had adhd over the past 2 years. Daily trip has been a touch stone for me through it all and I'm so glad you exist and were able to create something which has helped me (and my family) so much. Thank you❤️
The skills discussed in today's podcast were a new framework for me and really interesting to listen to.
I absolutely loved the idea hierarchies can exist without being hierarchies of worth and definitely want to hold that with me as I gently step back into my career.
I also really appreciated the discussion around congruence not needing to be a value.
For me, I have recently been holding authenticity as a value. I suppose this has come about in response to burnout from not acknowledging my own needs and experience. I am grateful for James Olivia's discussion about moving into spaces where it may not feel safe or desirable to be in congruence due to different power imbalances and modelling a third option of choosing mindfully whether to apply congruence or not.
I think have found my way to something similar to unconditional positive regard under the name of compassion following my own undertaking of a mindful self compassion course and working to develop my own understanding of possible feelings and needs and experiences that are underlying the behaviour of others through the teachings of NVC (non violent communication). I have found it exceptionally freeing and peaceful to be able to see us all as imperfect humans. Disagreeing with a person's actions, not liking them, being hurt by them, does not preclude being able to hold compassion for their experience and their own struggles that impact the way they show up in the world.
Empathic listening is just gold- reflecting back to another human what you understood and allowing you to be on the same page. SO POWERFUL.
Can't wait to hear more from all of you! Penny
I also appreciated the heirachies delineation Penny. I wish you luck with gently stepping back into your career <3 Contemplating these new views sounds so helpful for that- and life in general!
Thank you for this; there's a lot of yumminess to chew on here! I think my biggest takeaway is to hold not only the other person in high regard (I already forgot the term 🤦♀️) but also myself. Since my latest health scare, I've been shown how vital this skill is.
After years of not being listened to at my old hospital, I saw my new cardiologist from a different hospital today, and everything went great! I'm kind of exhausted, so I'll give you the highlights (this took about five hours to write, so I hope it makes sense 🥴). Dr. Campbell from the Minneapolis Heart Institute explained absolutely everything, was very friendly, and even kept saying I'm a highly intelligent woman (me, not him 😉). Dr. Campbell also said the arterial dissection should heal and explained why they don't stent spontaneous coronary artery dissection SCAD patients (totally different from what they told me at the Mayo). He also took me off a daily medication they put me on at the Mayo that's actually dangerous for patients with arterial dissections. They also had me on an IV medication in the hospital that is contraindicated with SCAD, which probably caused the last three heart attacks I had on Friday (on top of my heart attack on Wednesday, March 5, and Thursday, March 6, brought on by my fibromuscular dysplasia [FMD] causing the SCAD) and may have made my arterial dissection worse (I finally had to yell at them--not proud of that--to get them to quit giving it to me because it was causing me to vomit a few times an hour as I was literally fighting to stay alive). Anyway, enough of that; it's over and done now (I'm sorry, I had to vent, and I understand if you ignore it). ☺️ I'm having scans on April 3 at 11:00, and Dr. Campbell wants me to remain on bed rest with no news or anything stressful until we talk about the results; then, we'll go from there once we know the extent of the damage (which might already be healing! 🤞). He also prescribed nitroglycerin for the (somewhat high levels of) heart pain and spasms I've been having and explained how to use it and when to go to the ER. There's a 20% chance it could happen again, but they're getting me in with the best vascular surgeon, Dr. Skeik, and he'll check everything and make specific, personalized plans for my FMD going forward. I'm so grateful and happy (in a totally calm, non-stress way 🤭)!!! 🥰❤️🩹🥳
You have been through so much... <3 Thank goodness for Dr. Campbell- I'm so sorry that a good bit of that seemed to have been unnecessary, especially with how debilitating it was :( high stakes! I'm glad you're in a good place mentally, you certainly have fortitude!! I'm also glad you have someone with care and integrity taking over your treatment plan. Sending thoughts of strength and healing your way <3 <3
Thank you, Suzy, that means a lot! ♥️
That was all so amazingly good. I learned so much about myself through you guys. Jeff when you shared at about 11 minutes in and Tasha around 25 minutes I was thinking oh my gosh that's me. So, even at 67 you can learn new stuff about yourself and cool new ways to think. Loved her, loved you guys. Thank a bunch for sharing with us.
Thank you so much for being real human beings. It is so lovely and refreshing. You make me feel like I can be human too, with all my issues and still keep trying to progress. This is just what I needed. I have been such a shape shifter in my life and now trying to find what shape I am is a fun learning process. Keep up the creative swearing !
It seems like this was recorded last fall... Did you deliberately choose to drop this episode now, when we are seeing unprecedented levels of fuckery in the world? I can't even articulate how many ways this hit home this week. I'm going to be thinking about unconditional positive regard a lot. It feels like maybe this is The Key Skill -- it reminds me of a meditation prompt Tasha gave us a couple of months ago: "we're all made of the same stuff". I've shared that one with a few people recently and we are all similarly stopped in our tracks by that image.
Tasha's "cool, bye...." made me laugh so hard.
James-Olivia is so tuned in and present and full of wisdom- I was blown away. Her capacity to grasp at all the unseen unheard components of communication and then articulate her approach - so masterful! And generous, and rooted in integrity. I want to know more, much more!
This was liberating! I felt free of a lot of judgment about so many absurd things after listening to this.