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That was a beautiful unstructured wander around a really thorny topic. The question of who speaks out, and when and how and *why* is so interesting to me. I do think that sometimes we remain silent because we are avoiding the pain that might come with speaking out, but equally sometimes we speak out because there is a pain associated with being seen as passive, when remaining silent in a particular situation might actually be the wise action.

I'd love to see more of these conversations with the dharma teachers that we love -- just pose a wicked problem and talk it out. And then finish with a cathartic blooper reel of the two of you getting drunk on sparkling water...

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That's a great idea! Issue-based convos with our dharma homies... maybe we can wiggle this into a new segment!... 🤔💡

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